Complilation of Climategate stuff

When the Climategate story broke about some leaked emails and other info hacked from the University of East Anglia (apparently a major centre of climate science) I started emailing my usual suspects. Here are the two emails I have sent so far

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Email 1

Hi all,

I am not sure how many of you have been following the “Climategate” story – it would be hard since the main stream media is a little too caught up in pre-Copenhagen hysteria, but here are some links – read them in order I think – that would make the most sense. Not knowing much about the pro-AGW camp, I am sure there are some good sources of debunking info for all of these claims. Joe?

http://www.climatechangefraud.com/home/33-enviro-extremists/5648-global-warming-meltdown-climategate

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017451/climategate-how-the-msm-reported-the-greatest-scandal-in-modern-science/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1230104/MAIL-COMMENT-Bad-science-climate-change.html
Excellent summary, cross referenced with the source emails here

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2009/11/20/climate-cuttings-33.html

More analysis

http://www.devilskitchen.me.uk/search/label/CRU%20emails

Thoughts and comments? This is a WAY bigger story than a measly £33m in MP’s expenses, yet it’s a safe bet that, with so much invested in supporting the current “consensus” about AGW the MSM (Main Stream Media) will stay quite a far distance from it. And the public wont get as angry about it. Even though the perpetuation of the AGW myth, if myth it indeed is, will cost a hell of a lot more than £33m.

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Email 2

Hi all,

Been following this story as it goes on, and also having some very interesting conversations with my mate Joe, who has presented the AGW viewpoint and some very trenchant observations about how science works that has really been food for thought. Before getting to the meat of my links list today, here is a link that Joe sent me yesterday that I plan on working through bit by bit since I think it will answer most of my questions. It may not, indeed will almost certainly not, change my mind, but I think its healthy to see the other side of an argument.

http://www.grist.org/article/series/skeptics/

Now, on to todays collection of Climategate links.

A bit about the professor in charge from the Guardian, a left wing paper normally firmly on board with the AGW agenda. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/nov/24/climate-professor-leaked-emails-uea

For those of you who don’t know, Monbiot is a leading climate change personality in the MSM. Interesting post on his site, with a somewhat amusing satirical email regarding the “conspiracy” that is a little misleading since I personally think that there is a vested interest in the AGW theory remaining at the centre of political and economic planning http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2009/11/23/the-knights-carbonic/

More on Monbiot’s response from the skeptic site Watts Up With That. It really is a big deal that Monbiot is taking the revelations of the emails and the manipulation of data, at least on the part of some AGW science types, seriously enough to say what he is saying. The environmentalist faithful in the UK must be gnashing their teeth at such a high profile response. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/23/monbiot-issues-an-unprecedented-apology/

The Wall Street Journal here – its being looked at a little bit more seriously in the US press than in the band wagon press here in the UK.About halfway down is some interesting info regarding who AGW scientists respond to peer-reviewed journals that dare to publish papers by sceptics http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704888404574547730924988354.html

Not all American press media are looking at it, leaving it to the admittedly somewhat ludicrously biased FOX network to cover it. I think that the MSM in the states has some of the same vested interests as the UK media in toeing the line. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/11/24/climategate-totally-ignored-tv-news-outlets-except-fox

Another Watts Up With That link. This one looks at the fact that some of the code for the models was leaked along with the emails, and in many ways is far more damning than poorly chosen words that can be charitably be excused (though not by me) as out of context. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/22/cru-emails-may-be-open-to-interpretation-but-commented-code-by-the-programmer-tells-the-real-story/

I look forward to any response, and Joe, thanks for all the links yesterday, I will be looking especially at the link I posted above as and when I have time.

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Overall I think that this is a fascinating story and reinforces a lot of what I have instinctually been saying and thinking. Lets hope it does not get totally brushed under a carpet somewhere - the scientists in question may be only a small percentage of those invested in AGW theory, but they should all "hang" in a career sense, and possibly be investigated for prosecution.